Did The Jews Want Ireland As Their Homeland?
I have just spent a couple of days, involved in one of the strangest debates in which I have ever taken part. I have been called contemptible, a merchant of hate and a holocaust denier. I believe that if I went through all of the responses, I could probably come up with a few more examples.
The discussion was based on the question, “Was the Irish Famine a Genocide?” The basic rule of the debate was, that for a Genocide to be a Genocide, there had to be evidence of intent, it was suggested that in Ireland, there had been no Genocide, because there was no evidence that the English were deliberately attempting to exterminate the Irish.
My response to this rule, was to demand an explanation as to “What was a Famine.” The general response to my question was, that the potatoes were blighted. This was perfectly true, however a potato blight is not a Famine. During the course of a couple of days, I received no explanation.
I presented a link to a book which listed the cargoes of ships which had left Ireland bound for England, with cargoes of Cows, Pigs, Wheat, Oats, Butter, Cheese etc. by the hundreds of tons. This was dismissed as insufficient.
Suggestions that the Irish were not even allowed to fish the sea and the rivers, brought a response: The Irish had sold their fishing equipment so they could not fish and besides the Irish were so uncouth, that they ate cheese, which they referred to as “white meat” with their fingers, they did not even put it on a plate. Apparently they had very little in the way of cooking skills, all they appear to have been capable of, was to boil potatoes and carrots.
The defence which was offered, against the claim of a holocaust, was that the English were doing their level best to “improve,” the Irish people, every act of the English, was in some way designed to help them out of their misery. They just happened to be looking the other way, while these five million Irish people were starving to death.
Somewhere in the middle of all this nonsense, I asked for some sort of evidence of intent on the part of Hitler. Could anyone supply me with a document showing that Hitler intended to exterminate the Jews. I believe that it was in response to this, that I was accused of belittling the real extent of the holocaust, no matter, but I did receive a response from a fellow whom described himself as Irish and Jewish.
In a response to a question I referred to him as an Irish Jew. He explained that to question the holocaust was not good etc and that his father, had liberated a Death Camp in Germany and that he had taken photographs of the inmates and how shocked all of the GIs had been. At that point I did not realise that his Jewish half, even though he had in no way been involved with the events in Germany, any more than I had been, with the events in Ireland, had been mortally offended. It appears that the Irish may only be referred to as Irish Catholic or Irish Protestant, Irish Jew, seems to be considered as an insult.
He provided no photos from his fathers collection, telling me to look on-line, where there were many examples and a report from another source, which was not his father.
There you have it, the holocaust of the Jews, can be based on hearsay, without the need of proof of intent. It is not necessary to present any evidence of the means by which the victims had been killed. There is no existing photograph of a real live Gas Chamber, while there have been no mass graves discovered with cadavers showing any evidence of having been gassed.
The photos of those poor skinny people, whom were liberated in Germany, were mostly dying of Typhus and starvation as a result of the destruction of food convoys, it was not only prisoners whom suffered but everyone in the surrounding countryside and towns. Why indeed were these folk not dead, they were allegedly in a Death Camp, in prison garb, which would seem to be unnecessary in a “Death Camp.”
Nevertheless, these people were presented as suffering Jews, when in fact there were very few Jews amongst them, in one camp out of thirty-two-thousand inmates, there were only one-thousand-two-hundred Jews.
As for Ireland, the Famine is discussed as if it was a real famine. However it is not until you search for the evidence of it, that you realise that it is never explained. There has been no mention of animals dying of thirst and corn wilting in the heat of the sun nor indeed any of the other well-known signs of crop failure, it is of great significance that only the potatoes are ever mentioned.
That being so, what became of the thousands of tons of food which were annually exported to England? To where did it vanish if not into the mouths of the rich Irish and English Landlords? I would suggest that the food was always there and as usual only the potatoes were given to the Irish peasants.
Nearly half of all the farms in Ireland were under 5 acres. These Strokestown families being lined up for emigration were of average size, two parents and three children. And they occupied roughly four acres per family. By comparison to millions of others they were fortunate, but there is no material difference between half an acre of rotten potatoes and 4 acres of rotten potatoes.
The agent pointed out that if the potatoes were replaced by oats to provide the
staple diet for the tenant population, each family would need 12 acres to grow a crop large enough for them to exist for a year, following a good harvest. “It would seem, if this calculation be correct, the population on this land exceeds what it can support by two-thirds at present, the agent wrote, containing:
“The cost of keeping a pauper in the Roscommon Poor House averages about 2s. 9d.
a week [68 cents], that is £7 3s. a year [US $36].
The cost of emigration to Quebec averages £3 12s [US $18].
So it would seem from the above that there was certainly the possibility of growing other crops, suggesting that the “Famine” affected only potatoes. There was also a system known as the “Conacre” system where landlords, prepared land for the peasants to use, helping them to prepare the soil and took a cut of the harvest. However, it was “cheaper,” to put them onto a leaky boat and deport them.