A call from the Garrigue

Did The Jews Want Ireland As Their Homeland?

I have just spent a couple of days, involved in one of the strangest debates in which I have ever taken part. I have been called contemptible, a merchant of hate and a holocaust denier. I believe that if I went through all of the responses, I could probably come up with a few more examples.

The discussion was based on the question, “Was the Irish Famine a Genocide?” The basic rule of the debate was, that for a Genocide to be a Genocide, there had to be evidence of intent, it was suggested that in Ireland, there had been no Genocide, because there was no evidence that the English were deliberately attempting to exterminate the Irish.

My response to this rule, was to demand an explanation as to “What was a Famine.”  The general response to my question was, that the potatoes were blighted.  This was perfectly true, however a potato blight is not a Famine. During the course of a couple of days, I received no explanation.

I presented a link to a book which listed the cargoes of ships which had left Ireland bound for England, with cargoes of Cows, Pigs, Wheat, Oats, Butter, Cheese etc. by the hundreds of tons. This was dismissed as insufficient.

Suggestions that the Irish were not even allowed to fish the sea and the rivers, brought a response: The Irish had sold their fishing equipment so they could not fish and besides the Irish were so uncouth, that they ate cheese, which they referred to as “white meat” with their fingers, they did not even put it on a plate. Apparently they had very little in the way of cooking skills, all they appear to have been capable of, was to boil potatoes and carrots.

The defence which was offered, against the claim of a holocaust, was that the English were doing their level best to “improve,” the Irish people, every act of the English, was in some way designed to help them out of their misery. They just happened to be looking the other way, while these five million Irish people were starving to death.

Somewhere in the middle of all this nonsense, I asked for some sort of evidence of intent on the part of Hitler. Could anyone supply me with a document showing that Hitler intended to exterminate the Jews. I believe that it was in response to this, that I was accused of belittling the real extent of the holocaust, no matter, but I did receive a response from a fellow whom described himself as Irish and Jewish.

In a response to a question I referred to him as an Irish Jew. He explained that to question the holocaust was not good etc and that his father, had liberated a Death Camp in Germany and that he had taken photographs of the inmates and how shocked all of the GIs had been. At that point I did not realise that his Jewish half, even though he had in no way been involved with the events in Germany, any more than I had been, with the events in Ireland, had been mortally offended. It appears that the Irish may only be referred to as Irish Catholic or Irish Protestant, Irish Jew, seems to be considered as an insult.

He provided no photos from his fathers collection, telling me to look on-line, where there were many examples and a report from another source, which was not his father.

There you have it, the holocaust of the Jews, can be based on hearsay, without the need of proof of intent. It is not necessary to present any evidence of the means by which the victims had been killed. There is no existing photograph of a real live Gas Chamber, while there have been no mass graves discovered with cadavers showing any evidence of having been gassed.

The photos of those poor skinny people, whom were liberated in Germany, were mostly dying of Typhus and starvation as a result of the destruction of food convoys, it was not only prisoners whom suffered but everyone in the surrounding countryside and towns. Why indeed were these folk not dead, they were allegedly in a Death Camp, in prison garb, which would seem to be unnecessary in a “Death Camp.”

Nevertheless, these people were presented as suffering Jews, when in fact there were very few Jews amongst them, in one camp out of thirty-two-thousand inmates, there were only one-thousand-two-hundred Jews.

As for Ireland, the Famine is discussed as if it was a real famine. However it is not until you search for the evidence of it, that you realise that it is never explained. There has been no mention of animals dying of thirst and corn wilting in the heat of the sun nor indeed any of the other well-known signs of crop failure, it is of great significance that only the potatoes are ever mentioned.

That being so, what became of the thousands of tons of food which were annually exported to England? To where did it vanish if not into the mouths of the rich Irish and English Landlords? I would suggest that the food was always there and as usual only the potatoes were given to the Irish peasants.

Nearly half of all the farms in Ireland were under 5 acres. These Strokestown families being lined up for emigration were of average size, two parents and three children. And they occupied roughly four acres per family. By comparison to millions of others they were fortunate, but there is no material difference between half an acre of rotten potatoes and 4 acres of rotten potatoes.

The agent pointed out that if the potatoes were replaced by oats to provide the

staple diet for the tenant population, each family would need 12 acres to grow a crop large enough for them to exist for a year, following a good harvest. “It would seem, if this calculation be correct, the population on this land exceeds what it can support by two-thirds at present, the agent wrote, containing:

The cost of keeping a pauper in the Roscommon Poor House averages about 2s. 9d.

a week [68 cents], that is £7 3s. a year [US $36].

The cost of emigration to Quebec averages £3 12s [US $18].

So it would seem from the above that there was certainly the possibility of growing other crops, suggesting that the “Famine” affected only potatoes. There was also a system known as the “Conacre” system where landlords, prepared land for the peasants to use, helping them to prepare the soil and took a cut of the harvest. However, it was “cheaper,” to put them onto a leaky boat and deport them.

Thousands of Irish families were put on these boats going to Canada and the USA, many of whom were already diseased and starving and never made it to the other side. I think this qualifies as a form of ethnic cleansing. Even worse than that, they were used as indentured slaves, many until the day they died.

As for the absent-mindedness of the English, they have never denied taking hundreds of tons of food out of Ireland, they claimed it was for commercial reasons. So I think I was on pretty solid ground, suggesting that there had been no famine and a definite attempt had been made to wipe out the Irish. I think that it started in earnest after Cromwell had invited or was forced to accept the Jews, whom had been exiled from England, back into the country, as payment of a debt, which he had incurred during the Civil War.

These Jews are still engaged in a denial of Ethnic Cleansing in Palestine, despite ample evidence that it is taking place and has been taking place since 1948, while at the same time they are still demanding reparations for what they allege happened to them, despite the lack of supporting evidence. Their behaviour in Palestine, of which the English are unaware, is a stark reminder as to the fate of Christians, under a Jewish controlled Government in post Revolution Russia.

I must confess, I have no evidence whatsoever to back-up my theory that the Jews in the City of London, may have been casting an eye over Ireland, as a perfect place to install their headquarters, however not too long after, they were slaughtering millions in Russia, so it is not as if they were not capable. However the population of Ireland has never recovered since those days. The Jewish population in Europe on the other hand, appears to have recovered without so much as a hi-cup, following their holocaust.

All through this strange discussion, I could not understand, why in both directions the believers in the Jewish holocaust, while arguing the  truth of one, were denying the other. While demanding a proof of one were content with no proof of the other. While accepting no more than eye-witness evidence for one they referred to it as mere hear-say for the other.

see The Famine That Never Was

www.irishholocaust.org

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5 responses

  1. You begin by saying the debate is about intent, then completely fail to address the point, instead going on a rambling journey invoking the Holocaust and Palestine, events that were unrelated to the Famine. The title is likewise out of touch with reality.

    I think the most important clue in your post is the absence of links or sources. Not only do you not provide any evidence to support your claims but you don’t even link back to the comment section of my blog where this argument occurred. This is probably because you know that if you did your readers could see how the debate actually unfolded and not the distorted version you provide.

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    May 18, 2013 at 21:36

    • Listen you are jumping around all over my site and leaving snide remarks. I have just noticed on which post you were commenting. I have just re-read it. It is perfectly clear and cogent. I also provided written evidence of the fact that a choice was made between feeding the starving or emigrating them. Plus the fact that some Landlords did try to help the starving feed themselves, demonstrating that there was an awareness of the problem. You of course chose to ignore this and made some remark about “intent” I was in no way obliged to leave a link to your site. I have presented nothing that I am in any way worried about my band of readers seeing if that is what you are trying to imply. I also provided you with Chris Fogarty’s irishholocaust.org link which was insufficient for you. While you and your chums have provided nothing apart from what you describe as unsubstantiated rubbish. I noticed that another commenter provided you with a link to Fogarty’s YouTube interview. but you have a closed mind. I have no doubt that your real intention, when you came across Coogan’s book, was to dismiss it out of hand, simply because I had referred to you as Holocaust Denier, when you rejected my remarks about The Holocaust in Ireland after reading your rubbish about God not stopping the holocaust and you referring to me as a holocaust denier. because I suggested that he like me could find no trace of it. Remember that? Of course you do. So why do you keep blathering on about why I mention the Jewish holocaust. You know perfectly well why I mention it. Because we have a guilty little secret, don’t we Robert, which you don’t seem too eager to clear up with those who have asked you why I keep referring to the Jews. Do you think I could find a link for you to an English document saying “Lets Starve all the Irish to death” of course I can’t just like you cannot supply a similar document to support your claims.

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      May 18, 2013 at 23:55

  2. Don

    Mass Brainwashing and neuro linguistic programming have done their work well. It’s almost like a hypnotised man that believes he has no legs yet knows and accepts he is standing. The greatest worry for the English now is that our government has turned against its own people. We know they are vile ruthless killers, and we have now become the target. We are at war with our government and the city of London.

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    March 17, 2013 at 18:26

    • The problem we’ve got is so serious, that if we don’t do something about it soon there will be nothing left to do. We are being wiped out, all across the western world we are in decline. The media is hiding the reality. The Irish have already been decimated. The British are going the same way. One third of the German people were slaughtered in the most abhorrent manner, during and after the last war. The Christians in Russia went the same way. God knows how many of us were wiped out behind the Iron Curtain in the Eastern European countries. In all western countries more white people are dying than are being born, with immigrants the opposite is true. We are carrying the can for those whom brag about having been responsible for all of the world-wide slaughter, during the last two hundred years. We are now seeing an attempted takeover of our civilisation with the same sort of attack as is being paid for with our taxes in places like Syria, that is, paid thugs on the streets of our towns, attacking homosexuals and declaring the area to be an occupied zone. We are now entering Science Fiction Land Don.

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      March 17, 2013 at 20:41

      • Don

        Science fiction indeed. The matrix made real. I read this quote today and thought it apt.

        “The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”

        J. Edgar Hoover

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        March 17, 2013 at 21:27

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